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Getting Into Medicine WA

Curtin, UWA and Notre Dame universities all offer a medical degree course and UWA also offers dentistry. None of these universities has planned a 2021 information session although Notre Dame will probably do an online information session given the positive feedback they got for their 2020 online session which is still available online.

  • To get into medicine in WA you need to get outstanding academic results, get better results than most on an external University Clinical Admission Test and undertake a regime of Multiple Mini Interviews.
  • School students should apply for medicine at Curtin or Direct Entry at UWA through the normal TISC process.
  • Applications open for the University Clinical Aptitude Test (UCAT) on 1 March 2021 and testing can be done from 1 July to 11 August.
  • If you do extremely well on the ATAR and UCAT you will be shortlisted to do a Multiple Mini Interview examination

Curtin

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Curtin offers the only direct entry  Bachelor of Medicine Bachelor of Surgery program available to school leavers in WA and there is strong competition for the places.

It opened in 2017 with a focus on delivering high quality medical experts to regional and remote areas.

In 2022 they plan to accept 120 students, mainly school leavers, with some students gaining entry through Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander, rural and equity places. Read the Rural and Equity Information Here.

This course is not available to International Onshore Students on Student Visas.

Length of Course: 5 Years

ATAR: 95 (there are conditions around this that need to be explored HERE.)

Essential WACE courses

Essential: Chemistry ATAR, or equivalent. (Contact the Course Coordinator to find out what to do if you don’t have chemistry.)

Applicants are required to successfully complete a First Aid Certificate (including CPR) or equivalent by the completion of the first semester of the course. Students are also required to obtain criminal record history clearance, Working with Children Check as well as relevant immunisations and health screening. 

 Desirable WACE courses

Mathematics Methods ATAR, Mathematics Specialist ATAR or Mathematics Applications ATAR

Desirable: Study in one of the following Mathematics ATAR courses is desirable:

Mathematics Applications, Mathematics Methods, Mathematics Specialist, or equivalent.

English competency

  • Curtin is also seeking a range of Inherent Requirements which feel a bit difficult to pin down.
  • See current students speaking on YouTube HERE.
  • Register for the Information Evening and Webinar
  • You can find my notes from the 2017 presentation with suggestions from students HERE.

Australian Citizenship

Applicants must be Australian citizens, Australian permanent residents or New Zealand citizens who have successfully completed year 12 with a Western Australian Certificate of Education (WACE) or an equivalent senior secondary qualification and have an Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (ATAR), or equivalent.

General Information

Applicants will be ranked based on the following categories:

  • School leavers (predicted ATAR and UCAT)
  • Non-school leavers (notional ATAR from previous tertiary studies and UCAT)
  • Curtin course switchers (Course Weighted Average from current studies and UCAT).

Top ranked applicants will be invited to attend a Multiple Mini Interview (MMI). The interview process provides an opportunity for shortlisted applicants to demonstrate how they communicate, critically appraise information, and think about issues important to the medical profession. Applicants will be ranked and selected for offer based on their ATAR or equivalent, the UCAT score and the MMI score. Final selection will be made by this composite score. Applicants for this course should refer to the Curtin website for more information on specific admission requirements for Medicine. http://courses.curtin.edu.au/course_overview/admission-requirements/medicine.cfm

Multiple Mini Interview Those students who score highest on their ATAR and UCAT will be given an interview. See notes below on Multiple Mini Interviews.

UWA

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University of Western Australia

The UWA Doctor of Medicine (MD) and the Doctor of Dental Medicine (DMD) degrees are 4-year courses that require applicants to have already completed an undergraduate degree.

 It is possible to gain a Direct Pathway (guaranteed place) into medicine or dentistry if you have an ATAR of 99. (You still need to complete your first degree prior to starting medicine or dentistry.)

There are 24 places Direct Pathway places available in Dentistry and 65 placed available in Medicine.

Year 12s should apply for a Direct Pathway place via the normal TISC process in August-September.

You will require a:

  • Minimum ATAR of 99 or equivalent (Applicants are also required to submit the Predicted ATAR form.)
  • Competitive UCAT score.

The UCAT testing will be open from 1 July to 11 August.  

  • Successful interview

The final rating will be based on UCAT, ATAR and Interview and will be weighted 1:2:2 respectively.

Applicants are also required to have:

Dentistry applicants must also meet:

  • Satisfactory completion of the Spatial Awareness Test
  • Eyesight Requirements

International Applicants for Direct Pathway

International students can find information HERE.

 Recommended subjects

It is recommended that applicants have undertaken at least:

  • Physics to year 12 level
  • Chemistry to first year university level (including completion of year 12 level chemistry)

Bachelor Degree

A place in the MD and DMD is conditional upon successful completion of a bachelor degree with a minimum Faculty Grade Point Average of 5.5.

GPA

There are no preferred bachelor courses required prior to the Doctor of Medicine or Doctor of Dental Medicine.

Applicants for the UWA post graduate degree WHO DO NOT HAVE A DIRECT PATHWAY need to do the Graduate Medical School Admissions Test.

GAMSAT

The Notre Dame Getting Into Medicine information session is held the day after the GAMSAT. You can always pick the people who did the GAMSAT… They are the ones who look exhausted!!

Notre Dame

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This is a 4-year post graduate degree for domestic applicants only.

As with UWA selection is based on:

  • Grade Point Average
  • GAMSAT
  • An Interview

AND

  • A personal folio that demonstrates your suitability for medicine at Notre Dame.

Grade Point Average

Notre Dame says that successful applicants will already have a degree with a minimum Grade Point Average of 5. This score may be misleading as students usually have a Grade Point Average higher than 6.

Applicants must undertake the Graduate Medical School Admission Test (GAMSAT).

Interviews

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Applicants are also required to undertake an interview process…. which is described below.

Notre Dame Folio

Notre Dame also requires a Student of Medicine Application Folio which demonstrates more about the student’s personal attributes and suitability for acceptance.

Notre Dame usually wants to know WHY you want to study at Notre Dame and WHY you want to study the course you have chosen for any course so you would need to be clear on that.

Pre-Medicine Certificate

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Notre Dame offers a Pre-Medicine Certificate that its students can take WHILE they are doing their undergraduate degree (and getting a high GPA!).

This pathway also provides students with a mentor from the ND School of Medicine.

Completion of this Certificate will guarantee an INTERVIEW as part of the medical course application process if your GPA and GAMSAT reach the minimal score. It does not guarantee a place within the program.

Multiple Mini Interviews

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The interview process is made up of 8 Multiple Mini Interviews (MMIs).  You move from each interview into 8 different rooms. You are given a question and have 3 minutes to prepare your answer, then you go into the room and give your response for 8 minutes. There are two rest breaks.

The MMI’s take 88 minutes.

I have heard this process described as an endurance test.

Interviews are done by trained MMI interviewers who are trying to determine your suitability for the medical profession.  

YouTube videos and sites like MedStudents Online and Whirlpool will give you some ideas about what to expect BUT your experienced interviewers are not looking for rehearsed answers, they want to know about you and your suitability for the profession.

UCAT

Curtin and UWA Direct Entry require a UCAT score as part of their application process.

This test may be taken from 1 July – 11 August.

There are thorough instructions, trial tests and videos available on the UCAT site.

Extra Help

I like asking questions on Whirlpool.net.au . It might not be any more reliable than Facebook but you get to ask people who are in the field for their thoughts. You can even ask what students at different unis think about their medical courses.

Medstudentsonline is similar to Whirlpool. You can join in discussion threads about the application process.

Being a doctor is a tough gig.

I have provided career advice to a brilliant ATAR student who said there was no way he was going into medicine. Both of his parents were doctors and he saw the emotional toll it was taking on them and on their family life. He thought he might become a physics teacher.

The health industry is the fastest growing industry in Australia and Australian health scientists are up there with the leaders in many fields of specialisation.

The application of AI to diagnostics and the use of robotics is creating a boom in new health related career choices.  West Australian universities are onto this and competing to be leaders in new postgraduate health education fields.

Good Luck with Your Choices. 

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